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        <![CDATA[ Does anyone have an update from Wonderfest 2008?  Pics?  :-)  Anything interesting from 2001?  Thanks, -Robert
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: 2001 Details from Wonderfest 2008 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I was looking at the shot of the toggle switches again on the bluray, and my idea of the &quot;flip bar&quot; for the toggle switches doesn&#39;t seem to hold
water. I think now, it&#39;s just a switch guard. It looks like Bowman&#39;s fingers can fit between the toggle switch tips and the bar, so there is probably a
fair amount of room between the switches and bar. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ THX11138...you were right about the ridge being a ridge and not a wheel. I had forgotten about the higher res B&amp;W version of the pod interior that I had
downloaded years ago along with the lores color version:
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://pod.paragrafix.com/images/fromPhil/PodcontrolsBW.jpg">http://pod.paragrafix.com...romPhil/PodcontrolsBW.jpg</a>
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It clearly shows the ridge, and definitely helps support your idea of a good wall with which to push against by both of the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ THX11138, I like your reasoning. Those ridges have to have some function and yours is the best idea yet. I think the wheel-like thing could offer a good
torque-enhancing function; it&#39;s just that it is SO circular that it just screams &quot;wheel&quot;. I would have thought that a much more ergonomic shape
to it (more like a long ridge with the same height as the wheel) would be more practical for a good, larger surface to push against. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Treddie,
<br>
<br>
Let me first start by saying that your illustrations are spot-on. They fit all of the images and blueprints I&#39;ve seen. Until someone cracks this mystery by
locating an original, they&#39;re &quot;it&quot;. I&#39;ll have to post a link to the <a href="http://onemanspacepodworkinggroup.yuku.com/">One Man Space Pod
Working Group</a>,
<br>
<br>
The wheel-shaped object between the index and second fingers may help apply torque to the controller... the fingers pressing on... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Actually I&#39;m desperate! I&#39;ll look at anything to try to track this down. Maybe a list like this can spur someone&#39;s memory, keeping in mind that the
grip portion of the control may be the only stock part of what we see in 2001, and it would have to be something available in the early 60s. Maybe the post, or
at least the ball base pivot are studio mods, too.
<br>
Possibilities:
<br>
1. Marine application (boat throttle? Something else?)
<br>
2. Military (planes, tanks, ships,... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Perhaps the thumbwheel (if it&#39;s not just a tall ridge) handles up/dwn translation. Again, I may just be pissin in the wind. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Shoot...maybe it was a hand controller at a nuclear processing facility, or alien technology for aliens with weird cavities in their hands. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The arm manipulators or the attitude/translation controllers? The manipulators look really difficult since so little can be gleaned from available images. I
have little doubt, the Kubrick archives (now in a university collection) would shed more light on this.
<br>
<br>
This next part is long-winded.
<br>
<br>
As for the attitude/translation controllers these bring up a curious issue. Any spacecraft needs both types of control. In Gemini/Apollo/Shuttle, the xlation
cntlr is on the left, the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Treddie &amp; Rainfollower, you&#39;ve nailed it! The image on Dennis&#39;s site also shows the edge of that same label. Now, either of you want to take a
crack at the Waldos? <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> --Jim ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ In looking at the closeup jpg, this unit has a Martin-Baker spec plate, so that means this unit was definitely built by MB and not a subcontractor. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I just saw your new post up there after I sent my last post.
<br>
<br>
That stuff is cool. I went to the Martin-Baker website earlier but could not find that document. A good source I found was:
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.ejectionsite.com/eject1.htm">http://www.ejectionsite.com/eject1.htm</a>
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<br>
which also gives an indication of the various aircraft the seats were installed in.
<br>
<br>
But that pdf you found says it all. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ After more research, it appears that this style of PEC goes back to the 1950&#39;s era Mk. 3. It has been referred to as &quot;European style&quot;. It is
present on Mk. 6 and Mk. 7 series as well, and I wish that I had dates when these seats were introduced, but all I can find is that they were present in the
1960&#39;s. Considering that 2001:ASO was made in the mid 60&#39;s, if the studio had access to a boneyard, no doubt they would find much 50&#39;s era
artifacts.
<br>
<br>
There are... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Getting closer:
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/mkfourpics.html"></a><a href="http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/mkfourpics.html">http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/mkfourpics.html</a>
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/pec%20cu.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/pec%20cu.jpg">http://www.ejectorseats.co.uk/pec%20cu.jpg</a>
<br>
<br>
See the illustration on page 28 of this pdf:
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank"... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Well, your memory didn&#39;t fail you today! Thanks again. Now I suppose Martin-Baker is going to get a ton of calls requesting PEC&#39;s. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Glad I could be of some help!
<br>
<br>
I can&#39;t lay claim to any of the original information, just the memory of the discussion. I normally have a very poor memory, but for some reason that
HobbyTalk entry had not yet bounced out of my synapses.
<br>
<br>
- Mike
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Rainflower&gt; You are a &quot;Stealy-Eyed Missile Man&quot;! Your&#39;e post saved the day.
<br>
The connector is indeed what is known as a &quot;Personal Equipment Connector (PEC)&quot;, and a variant can be found on the Martin-Baker Mk12H Harrier
ejection seat. Since the Harrier is WAY post 2001:ASO, you will note only minor variations in the release tab (Please see attached images). I always thought
the whole thing rested on the surface of the panel, but (unless they cut it down), the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ After doing some quick research, the 3 ports can be explained as furnishing primary O2, reserve O2, and AntiG-Suit supply. The quick disconnect would be
necessary to get the pilot completely free from the seat after an ejection, without him having to think about disconnecting the lines manually (I imagine I
would have a lot on my mind TOO, during an ejection!). ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ ...and why do they decrease in size from the largest at the top, to smallest at the bottom? And I just realized, those three ball valves are acting like check
valves, they would remain closed if O2 were coming from behind. THAT assumes that the part that we see get removed is indeed the pilot&#39;s side. If the check
valves idea is correct, then the part attached to the pod wall would actually be the pilot&#39;s side. and the part with the three cylinders would be the
aircraft side. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ One thing that supports the idea that the uncoated aluminum parts were studio added is that it makes no sense for the manufacturer to coat the majority of the
aluminum in Zinc Chromate, and then leave the &quot;white&quot; part exposed. Also, the ejection seat idea could explain the 3 cylinders...oxygen hose fittings
that needed to be covered up with the white part to cover up the holes as that would look &quot;ugly&quot;. It would also explain the electrical
connector...for the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Rainflower&gt; You JUUUSSSSTT snuck that post in before mine. Thanks for the info. I will now look into ejection seat research, as well. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Does anyone have an update from <span style="font-style: italic;">Wonderfest 2008</span>?  Pics?  :-)  Anything interesting from 2001?  Thanks, -Robert
<br> ]]></description>

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