Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:12:13 GMT

lunadude wrote:I have Nero 9 and a Blu-Ray drive, how do I play Blu-Ray and make screencaps? Recipe please.

First, get AnyDVD from www.slysoft.com (get the HD version... it's required for Blu-Ray). They have a 30 day trial version. This software removes the DRM. I have no problem with doing this because I use it strictly for personal use, to create backups

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (lunadude) — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:24:51 GMT

THX11138 wrote:
...Nero 9, it stopped displaying the video of my 2001 file (it prompted me to purchase an unspecified plugin, despite the fact that I had the HD plugin), so I downloaded a new .m2ts file viewer from SourceForge.net, Media Player Classic - Homecinema. Worked great, and supported frame grabs well....

I have Nero 9 and a Blu-Ray drive, how do I play Blu-Ray and make screencaps? Recipe please....

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:50:53 GMT

I took your frame grabs THX, and grabbed the most comprehensive three and composited them below. In addition I guestimated the triangle edges and offer a comparison to the starboard tri-panel. There are a lot of layout similarities between them, yet some differences, some of which seem to be maybe only color differences in the switches:

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:20:48 GMT

I also think the reason that the buttons are canted at odd angles is due to ergonomics. If you turn your head to the side and back, you'll notice that your head has to tilt as well in order to stay reasonably comfortable. This puts the buttons on the panel fairly horizontal to your plane of sight.

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:46:13 GMT

EXCELLENT CATCH, THERE THX!

I never caught that. Only thing that might be an issue is that the mocked-up interior for the pod is not the same as the pod interior set, at least on the sides. You can see the differences between pod set images, and any time you are looking into the pod from through the door, particularly the way the upper "brow" panels are attached to the lower side panels. It may not affect the triangular panels in the back but this is a great catch that...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:44:18 GMT

After I installed Nero 9, it stopped displaying the video of my 2001 file (it prompted me to purchase an unspecified plugin, despite the fact that I had the HD plugin), so I downloaded a new .m2ts file viewer from SourceForge.net, Media Player Classic - Homecinema. Worked great, and supported frame grabs well.

I was testing out the program and scrubbing through the pod rotation...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:51:16 GMT

Yah, you're busy alright. Better than sitting around, I say.

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (x15gal) — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:51:07 GMT

Yep, that's the magazine. Still have my copy laying around her somewhere. As for the model, that is on the list of things to do. I want to update my web site with shots of some of my models I've built over the years, but just haven't found the time to do it right yet. For now I have a lot of my writing, my aerospace photography, and my modeling photography (not the plastic kind!) on my web site. The highest priority I'm working on is getting a book proposal approved for my...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:24:32 GMT

Cool story, Michelle. So now you have become immortal. Concerning the article, was that the Sci-FI & Fantasy Models International issue #38 (1999), with the ghoule on the front? That was where I got my blueprint info from.

Would love to see a photo of the model.

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (x15gal) — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:19:52 GMT

The reason I came up with the name in the first place was that I was doing a set of blueprints back in high school, purely for myself. There was the Dark Star, the Orion, the Proteus, and then the ship from Planet of the Apes. Obviously to complete the set, I had to come up with a name for the title box in my blueprint set. I figured since the ship was one that was destined to fail in its mission, that Icarus sounded appropriate. A friend that had a business called Star Tech, ended up doing a...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:06:45 GMT

x15gal > So you are the original source for the ship name, "Icarus"!
How did you come across the blueprints back then? That was a major coupe for you.
Sounds like the steel rod was a great idea. What tools did you use to get it to a point? I noticed, too that the fairings are a great concealer. Not something you can appreciate until you actually plan the build. Only problem is the area behind the fairing, but than can be filled and sanded fairly easily. Or I could just...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (x15gal) — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:09:14 GMT

Just wish I could get royalties for all the models that use the name of Icarus that I came up with for the Planet of the Apes spaceship back in high school. Oh, well, guess it fits in with Arthur C. Clarke and his failure to patent the idea of geosynchronous satellites. :-)

I built my Icarus a few decades back that fit with the studio blueprints I got back in the 70s, so it comes out at 1/48th scale as I recall. One of the biggest problems is getting a nice sharp point on the end of...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:15:14 GMT

I never thought of that, but that's true. Maybe hibernaculum failures of the future are as common as starships named "Enterprise" getting destroyed. Quick way to kill off needless characters in a story. The mummy would be a nice touch. Get out your "ooo" brush, though.

Styrene sheet (the thin stuff) is actually very flexible. It's also used for vacuform. With a router table, there is a lot of accurate flat-pattern stuff you can do with it. It's thin...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:43:46 GMT

How do you bend styrene sheets to form the exterior?

The Wilco Icarus isn't bad. A few voids in the interior, from air bubbles. The two halves fit together pretty well. The interior is well-executed. Complete with sleeping quarters. It's interesting... both 2001 and Planet of the Apes came out the same year, and both films had hibernaculum malfunctions. I'm going to have to put a mummified corpse in the Icarus hibernaculum, fully back-lit, for accuracy...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:48:43 GMT

You see so little of the Icarus in the films. When you think about it, you see so little of everything in 2001, too, when you add it all up. Amazing the amount of detail and beauty that goes into some things that see so little screen time. And then if the director destroys the models...oh well. I can understand Kubrick's desire to prevent things from getting reused in some other shlocky productions, but I wish he had just said that everything was stolen and he secretly stored everything...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:32:56 GMT

Very nice model. The Icarus is one of my all-time favorites. Too bad the crash sequence was so low-budget in the film.

I bought a Wilco resin model at WonderFest. I'm toying with adding lighting and a working hatch. Will require a lot of dremel-ing. I'm sure your styrene version will have a lot of room for lighting.

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:52:47 GMT

Oh! Ok, now I know what you are reffering to. And by the way, thanks again for posting your bluray frame grabs...they have been a great resource to draw from...must have taken for ever to put that all together.

But the paper pod I've never seen before. That's way too cool!

I used to work in paper a lot when I was a kid (when the mainstream kit agencies wouldn't produce plastic versions), so I have a soft spot in my heart for paper models. Off topic, I know,...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:06:51 GMT

Treddie,

Paul Bodensiek's "Pod Details" section is here. The "Drawings" section, which includes printable templates of the panels, for cutting sheet plastic, is here. His model-building progress, which includes many images, is

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:11:35 GMT

Thanks Dale.
Can you give me a link to Paul Bodensiek's work?

The port panel I like to refer to as the "Holy Grail" shot. It's so elusive, I sometimes feel that Indiana Jones is the only one who can track it down. You just KNOW it has to be out there somewhere. Maybe Dave Larson's book. I know it's not a mirror image panel though. If you look at the Walker photo, you can just catch the edge of it and if you know your way around the pod and can...

Re: Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (THX11138) — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:08:06 GMT

Treddie,

Nice work! Your research is of great interest to me. I've been wrestling with the Pod interior dimensions with the objective of doing a full-size reproduction. I was planning to do a 3D mockup in Lightwave, then iteratively refine the dimensions until they "fit" the photographic evidence. This wouldn't take lens distortion into account, though. Your solution is much more elegant.

I was planning to use the model interior by Paul Bodensiek as the...

Pod interior scaling check

feeds@yuku.com (treddie) — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:46:43 GMT

Just thought I'd post this image of a pod interior scaling check. I've been working on the pod since the mid 80's, and "grew" a computer program over the years that started out exclusively for my illustration business. It was to build perspective layouts from 3D data that clients could look at, and request changes to perspective and so on, before the actual finished illustration was started. But a cool side benefit became the ability to lay a background image down and...